When you’re already working around the clock at your job while trying to maintain a robust and fulfilling personal life, how do you find the time to turn your side hustle into a full-time gig? How do you make a name for yourself as an entrepreneur?
Platform FM’s first-ever guest Amy Martin is Partner and Head of Marketing for venture development firm JumpStart, Inc., founder of female blogger collective She in the Cle, and in her downtime, runs her own female-focused consulting agency Hyperthink to boot. And, of course, this is to say nothing of her personal life as a mother, board volunteer, and more.
If it hasn’t registered already, Amy is a champion of female entrepreneurs and women-owned businesses, partly because she’s been there herself. Tune in to hear her story and find out how she has created an online platform that has helped women across Ohio find their voice.
In This Episode
- Why Corporate America needs to pay more attention to small, women-owned businesses
- The data that proves investing in women is the right—and business-savvy—thing to do
- How to find the balance between utilizing your network and taking charge of your own business
- How to refocus and set goals outside your day job for long term business success
Quotes in This Episode
“Now more than ever women need and are demanding flexibility. The days of ‘I’m going to work a 52-hour work week, be in the office from 8 am to 6 pm without any flexibility to be there with my family in a time of need,’ you know, I think those days are slowly dwindling. But I just don’t think it happened fast enough.” —Amy Martin
“Women said, ‘Okay, if I can’t find this type of flexibility, then I’m going to create it for myself,’ which does not mean they can’t be just as successful. It’s just on a different schedule.” —Amy Martin
“You can work a lot of hours and not be nearly as productive as if you just spent your first half hour being strategic.” —Amy Martin
- @amymartin216 on Twitter
- Amy Allen Martin on LinkedIn
- JumpStart and the Jumpstart Focus Fund
- She in the Cle
- Grit by Angela Duckworth
- Warren Buffett on Investing in Women
- Research on VC funding for Women Entrepreneurs
Full Audio Transcription for Episode 2
Welcome to Platform FM, the show for people launching or growing an online platform. A must-have for influencers and entrepreneurs brought to you by the Online Platform Institute. In addition to this podcast, platform builders can get actionable insights and inspiration with the free weekly online newsletter. Join us by signing up at onlineplatforminstitute.com. While there, you can also download a personal platform blueprint to help you create an authentic and successful platform plan. Now, on with today’s show. Here’s Jacquie.
Jacquie Chakirelis: Hey everyone. Welcome to Platform FM. Now, if this is your first time listening, thank you so much for joining us. I am Jacquie Chakirelis, the host of Platform FM, and I’m here to connect you with content, an amazing community of experts, and encouragement to help you build and grow your online platform. I’m happy to have you here on episode number two. Remember, all of today’s show notes can found at onlineplatforminstitute.com, and I hope you’ll join us each week. Please add this podcast to your iTunes or Stitcher app. You can also follow us on Twitter @platformfm. Now, let’s get into today’s show.
I want to begin with a little insight on why I created this podcast. When I was co-hosting a national talk radio program several years ago, I had a chance to meet and talk with Gloria Steinem. This was a very big deal for me. I was raised by a single, divorced mother in a very parochial neighborhood. My mother had worked very hard and struggled against discrimination every single day, but, despite the odds, she had a career, she bought her own home, bought her own car, and raised a college graduate. She is my hero. As I explained this story to Gloria Steinem, who was my mother’s hero for her activism and leadership in the feminist movement in the late 1960’s, Gloria cupped my hands into her hands and told me to tell my mom that she was her hero.
That was a moment that I’ll never forget. That moment energized me and my efforts to support women. I realize how everything comes full circle, and I needed to do what I could do to support women as professionals and entrepreneurs. I invested in my network activities to foster relationships and connections that also support women. Which is how I met today’s first guest. Not only do we both speak about personal branding and work in the marketing field, we share a belief that we need to lift up as we rise. She is a true force of nature, and I know that every platform builder will benefit from hearing her story.
Let’s start with an introduction. Today’s guest is Amy Martin. Amy is the head of marketing for a venture development firm that invests in high-tech entrepreneurs. She has not one, but two, side hustles. Martin is also the founder of www.SheInTheCLE.com, a female blogger collective in Northeast Ohio, and manages her own consultancy agency HyperThink which provides marketing support to women-owned businesses. Most of all I’m proud to call her my friend, and thank you for joining us Amy.
Amy Martin: Thank you for having me. This is very exciting.
Jacquie Chakirelis: Good. I’m glad to have you here, and you are one busy gal. That’s probably the hardest part is pinning down your schedule. I mentioned the full-time job and the two side hustles, but I should also add that you’re a mom, you sit on a couple non-profit boards, plus I know you devote time to being a mentor to other women. I’m not going to ask the balance question because, let’s be honest, there is no such thing.
Amy Martin: Nope. Not at all.
Jacquie Chakirelis: How do you keep all those plates spinning and do it so well?
Amy Martin: It was funny. When you were introducing me, I’m like, “Wow.” Sometimes you forget everything that you do.
Jacquie Chakirelis: I cut it down, Amy.
Amy Martin: Right. Sometimes I’m like, “Oh my goodness. I do do all of those things.” I think it’s really important to set expectations with all of your responsibilities. Trust me, I couldn’t do that before the age of 38. I was always, “Oh, I’m all in. All in,” and then constantly dropping some balls and missing some deadlines. Which just, as somebody with my personality, was really, really hard for me. What I realized when I knew I was going to do these three separate initiatives on their own, that the stars had to align.
What I mean by that is, for instance at JumpStart which is the venture development firm I work for, they understand how important my network is to me, that I’m a blogger, that I have a side consulting agency. There’s no secrets and expectations are set. They know that I work exceptionally hard when I’m here, but that at times I have maybe early morning commitments or late at night commitments so maybe I’m not on-call all the time the way in previous gigs I would always make sure that I was available with that.
The same goes when I was partnering up with She In Rhe CLE and when I was launching HyperThink. I’m really honest with my clients about when I can work, and really honest with my She In Rhe CLE blogger about when I can blog and focus on product.
Jacquie Chakirelis: I think that that’s really, really important is that kind of honesty and upfront-ness. I always tell people, because again I’m busy and usually about five minutes late to wherever I need to go, and it’s usually because I’m an optimist about what I can do. Not only be honest with the people work with, but being honest with yourself.
Amy Martin: Yes. Absolutely. What I’ve realized is things change day by day. That does not make me a failure. If I had it on the books that I was going to blog on Thursday for a post that was to go up on Friday and get some client work done and one of them has to give because my daughter gets home and has to do some homework, then before it would be devastating to me personally. Then I had to really take a step back and say, “That didn’t really in the grand scheme set anything off into motion that shouldn’t have happened.” That’s the honesty with yourself thing that you just mentioned that’s really, really important. I just wasn’t able to hit that stride until a little bit later in life. I’m a lot easier on myself these days then I ever have been.
Jacquie Chakirelis: That’s good. You’re a lot earlier along than most people are. 38’s not bad. Post-38.
Amy Martin: I’m not 38 anymore; I’m 41, but 38 is when I started to wise up I would say.
Jacquie Chakirelis: Let’s talk about women entrepreneurs, because I think you have a unique perspective. As you mentioned, you’re an entrepreneur, and you work for an organization that fosters entrepreneurship. Let’s dive a little bit into the women entrepreneur numbers. I know you probably know this really well, just over 11 million US businesses are currently owned by women. Just over 1,000 new female-owned companies are being started every single day in this country, which is amazing. Go ahead, I’m sorry Amy.
Amy Martin: Oh no. I was just saying yes, it is amazing.
Jacquie Chakirelis: It is amazing. Actually, this number’s growing five times faster than the national average of all businesses. Why do you think that more women are exploring entrepreneurship and taking that leap?
Amy Martin: It’s a great question. There’s a ton of studies and articles about it, but I will tell there’s the good and the bad with why. I also think that the outcomes of it is all very positive for our country and for our economy. I do believe that now more than ever women need and are demanding flexibility. I think the days of, “I’m going to work a 52 hour workweek, be in the office from 8:00 am to 6:00 pm without any flexibility to be there with my family or in a time of need,” I think those days are slowly dwindling. I just don’t think it happened fast enough, and I think that women realized, “Okay, if I can’t find this type of flexibility,” which does not mean they can’t be just as successful, it’s just on a different schedule, “then I’m going to create it for myself.”
I think they saw a few big winners going out there and blogging and talking about it and being exceptionally successful, and it’s given women the confidence that they can do it. I think we are exceptional networkers, and we, for the most part, are a supportive community. I think as more and more women are stepping up to the plate. For me, if there’s a female popup in my area, I got it and I buy something. I don’t care if it’s a $5 lip balm or an $80 sweater, I am going to support women owned business, because I know why they’re starting. It’s so important that corporate America catches on that if they want to bring these women into their organizations eventually, even acquire them, buy them, or make that their side hustle and bring them in on a consulting side, then they need to take note of what they’re doing. I’m really proud of how many women are doing it well.
Jacquie Chakirelis: Really, really important. As you mentioned, there is a flip side to the faster growth rate. As a matter of fact, the majority of the businesses are more traditional services like hair or nail salons or social healthcare, which is great, but it doesn’t attract the fundings like the VC, the Angels, correct?
Amy Martin: Right. Not the traditional. When you’re looking at the traditional venture capitalists and the angel funds and some of those routes, you’re right. If you’re not in that sweet spot of the high-tech field, you’re going to struggle to bring in the funding that maybe can help you get off the ground. Again, when you look at women, and this extends toward minority populations as well, they’re just starting to get creative. They’re realizing that, “Okay, maybe the traditional venture capital route is not for me.”
That’s where you see Kickstarter and Indiegogo blowing, because they’re like, “You know what? I’m gonna utilize my family. I’m gonna utilize my networks and my network’s networks. I’m gonna utilize reaching out to women that understand the grit that I have, and I’m gonna get funding my own way that could then possibly eventually lead to more substantial funding from a more traditional VC.” I think that when you look at where the money is even going to women in tech, it’s tough to swallow.
Jacquie Chakirelis: It really is.
Amy Martin: I’m not going to lie, I work in the venture capital space, but I’m lucky enough to work with a company who is keenly focused on the fact that we need, it’s not just we want to, we need to invest in more women and minority company owners and we will do that every step of the way with our funding. If JumpStart weren’t like that, I wouldn’t be able to work there. It wouldn’t align with my brand and what I believe in. I do believe that, if those numbers don’t start to shift in a major way, the economy pays for it. We hae seen that companies that have a female in the C-suite or in an executive position, female or minority, are performing up to 40% better than companies that are all white men.
Jacquie Chakirelis: Right. They employ more. They do much better for the economy as a whole.
Amy Martin: Absolutely. It’s very easy to say that investing in women is the right thing to do, but let’s not forget it’s the smart thing to do. We tend to rely on that, “Well, it’s this moral obligation of inclusivity.” Sure it is. Of course it is, but there’s also a business aspect to this that cannot be ignored. Warren Buffet has been one of the biggest advocates of, “Look how far we’ve come as a nation by using half of the bench. We’ve just used 50% of the population. Watch out when we finally get up to speed and the rest of the population joins forces. Can you imagine what we can accomplish?” I’m sure, I don’t want to speak for you Jacquie, but I’m sure there’s a lot of us that are like, “It’s still not happening fast enough, but I’m encouraged by the progress.”
Jacquie Chakirelis: Thank God for organizations like JumpStart, because they are making it a priority, which you have to do in order to encourage it. I know I’ve founded two businesses, and, like most women, I chose the bootstrap route which is the way a lot of women start their own businesses. That’s pretty common.
Amy Martin: Yeah. It’s hard, and it’s not just women. A lot of minority business owners have to do it as well, and a lot of white men do too. Don’t get me wrong, but it’s not easy to do. It’s not something that is obviously sustainable. You tend to get … There was a stigma attached to it quite a bit, I think, for women that were bootstrapping and starting to use untraditional ways of raising money. I think we’re finally getting to the point where now we’re saying, “Okay, they made it through all of these obstacles and are still standing. We should really consider investing in them.” It’s a good thing. Drive My Way is a local organization that’s doing great things that way. They’re in the trucking industry, it’s a tech-based, and they have women at the helm. They have fought for every penny, and now companies are starting to take note. I’m like, “I love that. They earned it.”
Jacquie Chakirelis: That’s right. Such an important point, because there is a stigma associated when a woman decides or a minority decides to bootstrap. I know people in the marketing space like Brian Clark from Copyblogger who is a very successful, right now he’s in the software space, and every single one of his businesses, and I think he’s started over 11, have all been bootstrapped. Certainly nobody had that stigma over him. They considered him start and just a real success, and yet he bootstrapped them all.
Amy Martin: It tended to be, in the past, when men bootstrapped they were incredibly innovative, completely aggressive, an outlier, a disrupter. When women tended to bootstrap, it was because nobody would invest in them because their idea wasn’t good enough. I think we’ve come a long way. Don’t get me wrong, I still see it, but I think we’ve come a long way. The one thing that I will say, this is a little bit of a plug for JumpStart, but when we launched our Focus Fund just in January, which is a fund that only invests in either women or minority-owned tech entrepreneurs, it’s a $10 million fund. That’s not big in the VC space whatsoever. We found that we were one of maybe a handful that had that focus in the country. In the country.
We had VCs, we had for-profit entities and other organizations, reaching out to us, saying, “That’s a phenomenal idea. Are you worried? What is your structure? What is this looking like?” We were standing around looking at each other saying, “This hasn’t been done?” That’s crazy. We’re proud of being a leader in it, but it’s also a kind of a sad awakening.
Jacquie Chakirelis: It’s one thing to encourage more women to start their own entrepreneurial adventures, but are there certain elements that can really ensure their future growth and success? Where do they begin?
Amy Martin: Yeah. That’s a great point. The main thing that I think the networking aspect around our gender can tend to give us a little bit of a disadvantage is we tend to meet and ideate together. I just did that this morning. I had a great meeting with someone in my network, and we had this idea. We were ping-ponging it back and forth. We had so much energy around, and it’s a great thing to do. I think women genuinely enjoy that, but we sometimes forget that when you’re having a meeting, even if it’s with someone in your network, and you’re passionate and you’re real about something, you’ve got to do the due diligence beforehand of doing some type of outline. Making sure that you have a structured followup of budget parameters and the way that you’re looking at financing.
What I try to tell women is I know that we have to utilize our networks, because we just don’t have the access that most white men do. Networking it is crucial, but don’t waste an opportunity because you went in there with more of a, “Let’s discuss this,” and not walking in with you are a serious businesswoman with a serious plan. You may not get back out in front of that person in a while, and so that network partner of yours may just be remembering a spitball conversation where back at home maybe you have the resources and you have the thought power to really sit down and write a strong plan or a one page executive summary. Sit down maybe with an accountant or somebody that can help you think through your financing. I see a lot of women really taking those discussions a lot farther than they should without some of the backup and the thinking to prove that they’re legitimate in this space.
Jacquie Chakirelis: That’s so important. Thank you, Amy, for that. I think you’re right. I think that we don’t take that time to do that, and then when the opportunity arises, we’re not prepared. Really, really important. Before we get into the lightning round, this program is devoted to helping our listeners break through barriers that are holding them back from taking action. Can I ask you if you can recall a moment in your career, your business, or your life that you really needed to take a leap of faith? How did you do it?
Amy Martin: That’s a good question. Yeah. I remember moving to Cleveland. I was born and raised in Youngstown, Ohio. I’m a native of Ohio but spent 11 years in Chicago. Some of those years I was in Japan. My career had really skyrocketed in those 11 years. We had to make a quick decision for family reasons to move back, and I really had to reset my career. I remember thinking, “This very much could be the end of my career.” It was because I had built my network and I had built my name in Chicago and had put a tremendous amount of time and effort and hours into it. Then I just had to up and move to a new city and start all over again in my early 30’s. It was terrifying.
I had to make that decision, if I could put my family first, which of course I did, but it was a leap of faith of, “Am I gonna make it?” That self-doubt can be exceptionally powerful, and it can be the loudest voice in your head many, many times over. I had to really dig deep and say, “I can make it anywhere, so I’m gonna go for it. It’s the right thing to do for my family. I’m good at what I do, and I’ll find my way.” That was blind faith, and it was not the most fun time in my life. I’m proud of it.
Jacquie Chakirelis: That’s great. What do you think the lessons you learned from going through that is basically you could start anywhere?
Amy Martin: I took it as a business plan. I sat down and said, “Okay. I’m moving to a new community that doesn’t know me,” and, not to bash Cleveland, but a little more than 10 years ago when I got here, there were not many women in leadership roles whatsoever. I knew that. I knew that I was not probably going to have the access maybe to higher level positions that I had in Chicago, and so I really took a step back and said, “Okay. I have a couple tracks that I have to focus on. One is I have to build a network.”
There’s three people that I knew in Cleveland at the time. I sat down with each of them. I made sure I had my value proposition as a person outlined, what I can bring to people, why I should be a part of their networks, and why they should be opening doors for me, to really help them understand because I don’t expect people to just do things out of the goodness of their heart. Not when you’re time strapped the way that everybody is. I really took those meetings of really asking people to help me build my network and to welcome me into theirs as a job. I was very prepared. I understood my brand position and my value proposition, and that was one track.
My second was I was lucky I had a job just as I came to Cleveland, so I didn’t have any downtime, but I really had to establish myself in the business community with the current leaders and make sure that I was using my current company as an entrée to do that. It was two very strategic points that I had to focus on and really look at that as, “I can’t drop the ball on either one of these.” None of them were completely related to my day job, but I took a high level of importance and said that “My focus needs to be in these two areas just as much as my day job, because it will be crucial to my success long-term.”
Jacquie Chakirelis: You are dropping some gold girl. This is good stuff. Really great advice, so thank you for that.
Amy Martin: Thank you.
Jacquie Chakirelis: We’re going to talk about your current online platform. You happen to be one of those people who have several. Whether we’re talking about your personal brand or business, how and when did you start it? We can go to She In The CLE. That’s probably your biggest online platform, wouldn’t you say?
Amy Martin: I would say so. Yes. She In The CLE, and I’m laughing because my two partners, if they’re listening to this they’re going to cringe because they’re younger than me and they say, “It’s She In The C-L-E.”
Jacquie Chakirelis: You’re absolutely right. I know that. All the time.
Amy Martin: Listen, I say, “She In The CLE” all the time. They just get mad at me. She In The CLE started from exactly what I just talked about. I moved here close to 10 years ago, and when I started really walking around trying to get introduced to the leadership in Cleveland, I was not meeting with many women at all. It was incredibly discouraging, and it certainly wasn’t because the lack of talent was here. Because I’m in marketing and I’m in communications, throughout those 10 years and as I would meet and network with more and more women, they would constantly say, “Oh, you’re in marketing. Can you help me with my brand? Can you help me blog? Can you help me with my LinkedIn.” It was almost daily that those types of things were said to me throughout either people I worked with or interacted with or in my network.
It was one of those ah-ha moments with in the #thisisCLE launched around the renaissance of Cleveland. I remember that video was playing, and there was so much energy and excitement around the renaissance of Cleveland and then the hashtag came out. It was this hashtag with a black background and these white throwback letters. I was proud of it. I had been in Cleveland a long time, and I loved it. I remember thinking, “Wow. That’s a really-“
Jacquie Chakirelis: Masculine.
Amy Martin: “That’s a really masculine look right there.” I loved it, but I was like, “Wow. Huh. There’s just no she in that CLE.” I said it out loud, and I was driving in my car on the way home, and I pulled over on the side of 90. I jumped on GoDaddy and I bought the URLs right there and then. Had no idea really what it was going to be but knew there was an opportunity. When I really started thinking about the women that had come up to me, I said, “Do you know what they need? They need a platform for visibility, and they need a platform to attempt to build their brand and to network and to start engaging in purposeful conversations that can help lead them to where they want to go.”
That’s really what it started as and then my partners Christina Klenotic and Shibani, when we would start talking, it was just we all were nodding our heads about it. It was like, “Let’s open some doors for women entrepreneurs. For moms. For the lifestyle people that are fanatics about what they do with health and fitness and fashion. Let’s let women engage and network online.” We know that if you’re a mom, if you’ve got more than one job, if your commute is really long, you don’t have the power to take two or three network meetings a week. Let’s let you network through you voice and through helping you blog and tell a story that really resonates. That’s where She In The CLE or She In The C-L-E came from.
Jacquie Chakirelis: Really exciting. What vision do you have for the future of SheInTheCLE.com?
Amy Martin: We always joke that eventually we really have to set some guidelines around monetization and things like that, but for the most part we just love it. There’s three of us, and all of us have side hustles. We always joke around this one just rises to the top of everything that we do, including our day jobs, because it’s just authenticity as it’s finest of people wanting to tell a story. We’ve had a really hard time sitting down saying, “Let’s monetize the site,” or, “Let’s look at advertisers,” or, “Let’s be aggressive going after this.” We know we eventually will, but the three of us just aren’t in any hurry because we have loved the natural progression of the company.
What we have said is, “Between January and June, we’re going to define our next channel.” Whether that is podcasting or a little bit of vlogging with video, and then we have been approached by some organizations in town we’re very lucky that are very, very interested in doing some type of partnership. We have been a six month timeframe on making the decision of what that next one is. Because all three of us have jobs, a couple, we don’t push it too much. We’re going to pick on thing in six months to focus on.
Jacquie Chakirelis: That’s a great idea. It’s almost an organic growth but a focused organic growth.
Amy Martin: Absolutely. The three of us are blogging or putting up the blogs or doing the back end work on the site anywhere between 10:00 at night and 2:00 in the morning. We’re not going to push each other too much, because we know what it looks like.
Jacquie Chakirelis: On that thought, is there a certain productivity hack that really helps you get so much done in one day? Is it just putting in the hours?
Amy Martin: No. If I’m not exceptionally organized, and I use OneNote … You want to talk about low level hack, I’m a OneNote fanatic. That’s how I keep all of my different organizations separate and my to-do list and what I really need to get done. I think you can work a lot of hours and not be nearly as productive as if you spend your first half an hour just being strategic. People tend to just, especially when you get side gig, is you tend to just run. “I have 50 things I have to get done today.” Sometimes if you would just take a step back and say, “You know what? These five are the most important, and the best time I can get them done, because I need responses and I need this and I need a credit card payment, is this window. I need to reorganize and reshuffle my day. I need to move some things around and change things up a little bit, but I will be 10 times more productive.” I think if I don’t do that. I’m a little bit of a lost cause.
Jacquie Chakirelis: I get you. I use Evernote for the same thing, and it really does help keep you organized when you’re, again, spinning a lot of plates at once. Let’s go old school for a second. Have you read a book in the last year or so, whether it’s for women entrepreneurship or just for the pleasure of reading, that you really got something out of?
Amy Martin: I’m going to cheat a little bit, because I haven’t finished it, but I am in the middle of a book that is really exciting for me. I can’t wait to get in my car. I do a lot of books in my car, audiobooks, just because of my commute. Angela Duckworth’s “Grit”. Have you read it?
Jacquie Chakirelis: I’m in the midst of it as well. You know how you can get the summary? I got the summary first, and then I bought the book. We’re going to have to compare notes. What do you think so far?
Amy Martin: I love it. I absolutely love it, because … Prime example. I had breakfast with a woman last week who, and I’m not going to say her name, but she is in an executive leadership position at a very highly publicized great, successful HR company. She’s phenomenal, and she’s worked her way up the ladder. She shared with me, which I would’ve never known, that she never graduated out of college. She was a drop out. In high school, she struggled. She is now sitting at the executive table with PhDs, with Harvard grads, and is not second guessing herself one bit. When I was listening to “Grit”, I was like, “Oh my goodness, this is her,” and it’s also almost probably every woman, because we question our intellect. We question, “Did we put enough hours in?” We question, “Am I smart enough?” Let me tell you, I’ve never seen such perseverance as I do out of female entrepreneurs, and we have the grit.
I don’t want to ruin the book for anyone, but the author did tremendous research around the grit and the hard work and the dedication and that drive. How does it stand up to education? I’m only three fourths through, but let me tell you, grit seems to win nine times out of 10. For somebody like me, I’m in marketing. I graduated college. I went to college in Ohio at Ohio University. I don’t have my MBA. I don’t have my Master’s. A lot of the jobs that I’ve gone after and I’ve won the position or earned the position, they’ve said, “MBA required.” I’ve walked in and said, “I don’t need an MBA.” In essence, I’ve been saying I have the grit.
I love that book because it just reminds you that there’s certain economic statuses that maybe you put in your head or really define you, but they don’t. That book to me has been a game-changed of just really reinforcing some of the beliefs that I have about myself and other women.
Jacquie Chakirelis: Wonderful. Amy, you gave me goosebumps.
Amy Martin: Thanks.
Jacquie Chakirelis: I’m going to have to have you back on, because there’s never enough time to talk to Amy Martin I think.
Amy Martin: Any time for you Jacquie.
Jacquie Chakirelis: Before I let you go, what is the best way our listeners can connect with you in the future or day?
Amy Martin: Sure. If you’re on Twitter, that’s where I spend most of my random time networking. My handle is @AmyMartin216. That’s probably the easiest way to reach me is follow me, I’ll follow you. We can instant message back and forth and connect. My website for the online blogging is SheInTheCLE.com, and my website for my personal company is HyperThinkCLE.com, or you can find me on LinkedIn. I always encourage people find me on the social channels, and let’s have a conversation online and make sure that we should connect in person.
Jacquie Chakirelis: Amy, can I have you back on to talk about networking and future endeavors?
Amy Martin: Name the date.
Jacquie Chakirelis: Okay. Great. Thank you again, Amy, I appreciate it.
Amy Martin: Thanks Jacquie.
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